Linux Users' Group of Davis - "LUGOD 2004.06.20 Meeting Notes"
2004.06.20 Meeting Notes
House Agriculture, Davis
- Linux Distributions in Lending Library
We have purged the Lending Library of all Linux installation discs
and other software, since they were all outdated and rarely borrowed.
Any collection of Linux distros will focus on usage at Installfests.
- Society for Technical Communicators
After many tries at finding enough volunteers to staff a Linux booth
at this event, Bill Kendrick is giving up and will tell them we cannot
make it this year.
- LinuxWorld Expo
We need to make sure we find volunteers for a LUGOD booth at LWE.
It may make sense to create a sign-up form to place out at upcoming
meetings. We may want to consider providing incentives for volunteers,
or at the least emphasizing the incentives we already receive from LWE
(like passes, discounts, etc.). Such incentives will be first-come,
first-served for volunteers.
We might want to coordinate travel
(like 10-ride Amtrak passes which could be used by 5 different people),
hotel and other accomodations, and access to other events happening
during LWE. (Of course, LUGOD won't be able to pay for these, but we
can help coordinate.)
It doesn't seem to make much sense to try and coordinate Davis/Sacramento
volunteers for staffing much of Picnix (and they typically seem well-staffed
to begin with), so LUGOD is considering focusing on promotion of the event.
Henry has okayed spending $50.00 on flyer photocopies, and knows an
inexpensive copier in Berkeley. (6c/sheet, at two-flyers per sheet,
comes out to over 1600 flyers.) These flyers can be distributed to LUGs
and at our booth at LinuxWorld. (We may even be able to get reimbursed
for this expense by whomever sponsors Picnix13.)
We should try to coordinate carpooling from the Davis/Sacramento region,
as well as make sure other LUGs know about, and help promote, the event.
- Mailing List Archives
We have been asked to edit our mailing list archives to remove a member's
e-mail address (to reduce their potential of being spammed). This became
a discussion on the current state of our list archives, and plans for
- Pipermail archives messages as they are delivered to list members by
Mailman. The archives live at lists.lugod.org. Their main disadvantage
is that the pages do not look like the rest of the LUGOD.org website,
and lack navigation links to the rest of the site content.
- Mhonarc archives messages as they come in, and are susceptible to
archiving messages which were never delivered to the list
(like spam!). The archives live as HTML files at
- We will dump Mhonarc and use only Pipermail archives. We will try
to make the Pipermail pages look like the rest of the site, but it is
not a major loss if this is difficult. (However, Pipermail is
written in Python, so it should be reasonable to find someone who can
help, if an Apache or PHP solution cannot be found.)
- We will mask all e-mail addresses in the Pipermail archives
(e.g., to "email@example.com" or something similar). The point of the
archives is not to find people's e-mail addresses, but to read
interesting posts and find solutions to technical problems.
- E-mail addresses on Members pages
The discussion of e-mail address masking in the mailing lists archives
brought up the "MAPS" ('spam', backwards) address munging used on the
members page, and how that is not user-friendly (though so far
has seemed to prevent harvesting of addresses from the members pages.)
We didn't come up with a suitable solution to make the addresses both
easy to use, but also hard to harvest. We will ask members via the
mailing lists what they think we should do.
- HTML e-mail rejection
Numerous complaints of HTML posts to our mailing lists have been made
recently, so we began looking into an SMTP-time solution for bouncing
such posts automatically (so that a personal reply is unnecessary...
so that people don't feel they're being picked on, especially new
members). Unfortunately, since LUGOD shares the server with other
users, it doesn't look easy to do. Mailman was recently upgraded, so
a solution might be possible there.
- Dynamic IP rejection
LUGOD's server now rejects client IPs that do not resolve
(via reverse DNS lookup) to a hostname. Members with difficulty posting
to the list can request to be whitelisted. A note will be posted to the
mailing list pages, on the main web page, and to the vox-announce list.
- Emily Stumpf (root)
- Henry House (/dev/null)
- Bill Kendrick (Public Relations officer)
- Dmitriy Ivanov
LUGOD: PO Box 1336, Davis, CA 95617
2004 Jun 20 23:33