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Re: [vox] SuSE Bloat
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Re: [vox] SuSE Bloat

Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Micah J. Cowan wrote:
>>On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 04:08:47PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>>The hardware recognition is really a function of the kernel, so
>>>Debian will recognize any hardware that the kernel itself will
>>I don't think so. The kernel generally doesn't handle hardware
>>detection directly, only hardware support.
> The kernel[1] does both; modules which are loaded figure out if they
> can handle any of the available hardware.
>>Some modules will auto-detect whether their presence is helpful; but
>>for some things this isn't practical/possible/implemented.
> All modules have to detect[2] the hardware that they are actually
> capable of supporting, otherwise they're just plain broken.
>>It's mainly a question of determining which modules to throw into
>>the kernel in the first place.
> We build (almost) all of the modules as modules.
> Now, if you're talking about things like whether discover, hotplug, or
> udev will figure out which module is the right module to load, that's
> really a function of their PCI ID database. Thankfully, that
> information is shared through most of the distributions, so assuming
> your hardware predates the version of the database, it should pose no
> problem. [Otherwise, you can load the module using modconf, or use the
> etch d-i, which has newer versions of discover et al.]

Now X is an entirely different beast, basically requiring some manual
tuning no matter what to get it working.

But X aside, what do things like Kudzu (and discover in Debian) do these
days? What would be missing if they weren't there?


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