Re: [vox] why i hate phantom menace

[Peter Jay Salzman <p@diraMAPSc.org>]

yeah, ok, you called me on it and i admit i was hasty.

jedi was a good movie, but it's easy to lose sight of that fact because
one of the last things you see is the ewok celebration, and right before
that is the ewok/imperial battle.  i walked out with a queasy stomach
from watching ewoks cuddle up to r2d2.


it's kind of like beer that tastes delicious on the tongue but has a
mega bitter aftertaste.  it's just hard to call it "good" no matter how
much you enjoy it while it's going down...


pete




begin David Margolis <margolid@ecs.csus.edu> 
> OK, I have some serious problems with Jedi too, but _complete
> disappointment_???  come on pete!
> 
> ok, let's break it down.
> why i agree with you -
> ewoks: silly!  chewy is cuddly enough.
> end of movie: deathstar blows up in underdog makes good space battle,
> haven't we seen this before?
> reality check: even with the deathstar gone and the emperor dead, the
> rebellion has a long way to go, and (possibly) lots of empire left to deal
> with.
> 
> why i don't agree with you -
> han solo rescue plus jabba the hutt gets worked: bad to the bone, we get
> the see the jedi in action for the first time.
> forest speeder scene: you can't not love this!!!
> last 20 minutes: i often fast forward the movie right up to the scene
> where luke gives himself up.  the whole scene where luke realizes they've
> all been set up, and he wants to whack the head of the emporer but he
> knows that's gonna take him down the _path_, but then he loses it after
> _sister, you have a twin sister, obi wan was wise to hide her from me.  if
> you won't turn to the dark side, then  perhaps ... she ... will!_
> NEVER!!! (badest lightsaber battle ever ensues).
> 
> the music, film/art quality, drama, suspense, epic quantity/quality of all
> of that last few minutes is incredible.
> 
> just a few more than two cents,
> dave
> 
> ps episode 1 can suck it (except for the first 15 mintues when obi and qui
> gon rip shit).  i HATE the immaculate conception concept and
> metaclorians...
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