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More realistically, tell them to read this:

  http://www3.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=101034

If that's not enough, there are 25 other news stories listed
at http://livepenguin.com/whynotms.html specifically about
major security issues with MS products.

-- Rod

On Wednesday 01 May 2002 08:51, Don Werve wrote:
> On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 08:41:20AM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> > But you're right.  Even though this conversation was based on the
> > fact that the department had already spent tons of money on a Cold
> > Fusion server, is determined to use IIS and Access, and the IT
> > guys here believe that because PHP is open source it's insecure (a
> > quote: "Since everyone has access to the source code, all of the
> > security flaws are completed overexploited!").
>
> Scary that some people do think that; I would have challenged him to
> a contest.  Put up one of their crack-team secured ColdFusion
> servers, running on IIS, up on the web; and put up a Linux box,
> scavenged together from spare parts, running a base install of
> Debian with only the items needed to run Apache and PHP (can all be
> done from apt), and with minimal security work done (run apt-get
> upgrade, close down a few services, that's it).
>
> Publish the IPs on irc.k1dd13s.net, in
> #fuck_me_gently_with_a_chainsaw, and see which machine dies first...
> ;)
>
> > I still feel good about myself.  I'm sure I do.
>
> It's the heroin.  Choose life!

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