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Re: [vox] Re: [vox-tech] php wonders. (was on vox)

You make alot of good points oin this post..  However it wasnt my point..
LUGOD is the best ive ever seen in any genre of user group.  I'm not
attacking or devaluing the group nor am i devaluing the efforts of the
group.  I'm asking what other options are there.

Let's take for instance the concept of GUI verses Command line.
Pete wrote about learning how to telnet.  Not a bad thing.. What about the
concept of not using a command line?  I know it's one of the strengths of
Linux but alot of people are daunted.. what if the option to use a command
line is left for later?

If you were to write a corriculum to "Convert" a company of 50 people to
Linux for workstations how would you do it?


> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:21:14PM -0500, Erik Mullinix wrote:
> <snip>
> > What do you see can be done to show how something works.
> > Installfests are nice but they demonstrate the hobby nature of Linux.
> > far as i've seen.
> Indeed.  But just because there ARE Installfests doesn't mean everyone
> using Linux is a hobbiest.  In all areas of computing, there'll be
> hobbiests.  I'm a hobby game designer.  That doesn't mean that commercial
> games being published out there are to be considered any less serious. :)
> > Meetings are usefull but the content of the conversation is easly lost
> > people who are not deep into the bowels of Linux.
> This is often true, but as you've probably noticed, we (mostly I) try
> to gauge the technical level of each of our meetings' speakers, to
> help ensure that the newbies don't come to a talk on the innards of
> parallel computing, and that the bioinformaticists out there don't
> get disappointed when they come to a talk on "Networking under Linux"
> just to find out it was a talk on how to run FTP. ;)
> Now, since many of our regular attendees are above the level of
> "how do I use FTP?", we often do try to book speakers with more
> hard-core topics.
> This has led to occasional discussions of, for example, "should we have
> a 2nd track to the meeting, for beginners?" or "should every OTHER meeting
> be for beginners?"  (Actually, more commonly asked, way back when, was
> "should every other meeting be for club business?"  Thankfully, the answer
> has been: "No." :)  We've been dealing with things via
> officer's meetings)
> > What other options are there?
> Well, at least twice now, we've had "Intro to Linux" classes, which were
> actually completely separate from regular LUGOD meetings.  The two times
> we held them were at the City of Davis' computer lab on A Street.
> The second class was actually pretty cool, because we were able to get
> copies of Demo Linux burned (thanks, Stephen, I believe!) so we could
> run Linux on all of the boxes without actually installing anything (except
> a temp. file on the Windows filesystem) :) :)
> So, I'm not sure if I've answered your question.  I guess my point is,
> we (LUGOD) have occasionally thought about these exact things, and,
> not part of our twice-monthly meetings, have tried to deal with them in
> our own special way. :)
> -bill!
> (sorry if I'm rambling and incoherent... I keep getting interrupting by
> this weird "work" stuff here at work ;) )
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