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Re: [vox-tech] installing suse linux 8.1
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Re: [vox-tech] installing suse linux 8.1



Well:
This is what I have done so far...I tried two different cd roms on my newly
built pc (new and the original cd rom I used to install suse on my old
pc)--->same results.  I tried my boys pc, which is exactly the same as mine
(same motherboard, same processor, same memory but different cd rom and
video card) ---> same results.

Then I tried it on my daughters dell built pc P4 and it recognized the disk
with no problems but I didn't install it.  This shows that it is not a bad
suse disk or bad cd roms but a compatibility issue with my pc's hardware, be
it memory, motherboard or processor and nothing more.

Here is what I am running:
Motherboard: Intel p4 model # D865PERL.
Processor: Intel p4 3ghz 800mhz system bus; 512 KB l2 advanced transfer
cache supporting hyper threading technology.
Memory: Kingston 2X512 MB 400mhz; model # kvr400ak2/1gr.

This is the same as my boy's pc except his motherboard has built in LAN and
supports raid.

I have spent big bucks recently building my systems.  I am not going to buy
any more hardware.  I wonder if it has to do with memory?  I wish that I had
different memory to try but I cant afford to spend any more money to figure
this out

Jimbo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Jay Salzman" <p@dirac.org>
To: <vox-tech@lists.lugod.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [vox-tech] installing suse linux 8.1


> jim,
>
> i haven't been following this thread, but here's my take from jumping in.
>
> the key here is two-fold:
>
>    1. 800MHz P4 is an aging system in the scheme of things.
>
>    2. you didn't find anything in google.
>
> the first point is relevent because linux sometimes doesn't get new mobo
> chipset support immediately.  when i first bought my kt133a, literally 2
> weeks after the chipset first came out, some of the AGP stuff didn't
> work.  googling, i found a kernel developer announce on lkmpg that he
> was working on it.
>
> i sent him a polite note asking for an ETA, and he gave me some patches
> which were included with the next kernel.
>
> but an 800 MHz P4 is what -- 2 years old by now?
>
> i __seriously__ doubt there's a hardware problem there.  any problems
> would've been worked out a long time ago.
>
>
> the second point is valid, well, because it's ALWAYS valid.  i've never
> found that i was the first person to discover a problem.  someone,
> somewhere, always asked the same question before me.  sometimes the
> question got answered, and sometimes it didn't.  sometimes i'd have to
> search very hard.  but my questions have always been asked before.  and
> believe you me, i ask a LOT of questions.
>
>
> well, there's a third key:
>
>    * the problem seems to be "related" to a CD drive
>
> the day of proprietary IDE devices is over, i think.  rick moen keeps
> information like this on his website, so maybe he'll have something
> different to say.  but i think it's true.  you don't get much more linux
> friendly than an IDE CD drive.  except for, of course, a SCSI CD drive.
>
>
> here's my guess.  it's not your motherboard.  it's not your cd drive.
> it's probably your disks.
>
> if you *insist* without the possibility of error that it's not the
> disks, it has to be a bug in suse's install program, and you should look
> for updates.
>
> if you bought the boxed set, you NEED to contact suse.  if the problem
> really is some kind of hw compatibility (which i stress is very
> unlikely), they need to be made aware of it.
>
>
> pete
>
>
>
> On Sat 10 Apr 04,  2:12 PM, Jimbo <evesautomotive@charter.net> said:
> > It appears that another OS can work on it.  It has to be a compatibility
> > issue of my motherboard or memory.
> >
> > This looks like a job for SUPER INSTALLFEST! (doing my best superman
pose).
> >
> > I can always build another box w/ old motherboard and use that but
darn!, I
> > wanted to see how suse works on a top of the line setup.
> >
> > Jim George
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rod Roark" <rod@sunsetsystems.com>
> > To: <vox-tech@lists.lugod.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] installing suse linux 8.1
> >
> >
> > > On Friday 09 April 2004 11:39 pm, Jimbo wrote:
> > > > Greetings:
> > > > I am having a hard time installing suse on my newly built pc.  I had
> > sucessfully installed it many times before on my old pc.
> > > >
> > > > I have the boxed version of suse 8.1 professional.  I load up via
cd.
> > It shows me various options to installing.  I choose the top one
> > (installation) which I have done in the past.  Then it loads kernel.
> > Screens pop up asking what language and type of keyboard.  I hit enter
on
> > both occassions. Then, and this is where installation halts, a message
pops
> > up asking me to be sure that cd 1 is installed.  I press enter for ok.
Then
> > a red box pops up and states that cd rom can not be mounted.
> > > >
> > > > I tried to go manual installation but same error.  I have tried
> > alternative installation disk 2 but same results.
> > > >
> > > > I have a P4 800mhz processor with 1GB memory and an intel
motherboard.
> > Thinking it might be my cd rom I changed it with my other one that was
used
> > to install suse before but same results.
> > > >
> > > > All cds are good/ not damaged.  Googling just made me waste time.
> > > >
> > > > If someone can give me insight and direction I would be very
grateful.
> > >
> > > If you are sure the CD is not damaged, then it sounds like
> > > some kind of hardware incompatibility with Linux, or perhaps
> > > a hardware defect.  Is the CD drive IDE?  What's the
> > > motherboard?
> > >
> > > -- Rod
>
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