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Re: [vox-tech] latex sty

# Re: [vox-tech] latex sty

On Thu 04 Mar 04,  2:43 PM, Jonathan Stickel <jjstickel@sbcglobal.net> said:
> Thanks Pete and Micah for responding:
>
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >On Tue 02 Mar 04,  6:44 PM, Jonathan Stickel <jjstickel@sbcglobal.net>
> >said:
> >
> >>I'm submitting a latex document to a journal, and I'm not supposed to
> >>include any files other than my latex file and my eps figures.
> >
> >
> >have you written to them and said something like:
> >
> >   "is it OK to also send in a .sty file to conform to your bibliography
> >   format?  and if i can't, please tell me how to conform to your format"
> >
> >before giving up on that, you should definitely ask...
> >
>
> Well, like many nerdy engineers, I tend to use real human interaction as
> a last resort :-)  But I did do so now and am waiting for a response.

hee hee.  :)

> <snip>
> >>Is there any way to include that information in my latex file?  I
> >>tried just pasting it in at the top of my document, but I get errors.
> >>Clearly, there is syntax for sty files that is not permitted in latex.
> >
> >
> >it's possible, but not that i know of.  my own pete_macros.sty is just a
> >bunch of macros i've written and placed in \$TEXINPUTS so \usepackage can
> >find it.
> >
> >are you sure you pasted it after \documentclass but before
> >\begin{document}?
>
> Most definitely, but my problem was with any \@[latex_command].  By
> Micah's suggestion to look around on comp.text.tex, I found my answer
> almost immediately in a tex-faq.  You have to wrap sections that contain
> these commands with \makeatletter and \makeatother.  For example:
>
> \makeatletter
> [pasted in from foo.sty]
> \makeatother
>
> This is actually discussed in the "Latex Companion" on pages 15-16, but
> I didn't realize it until now.  So my problem is solved!
>
> Jonathan

aha.  i guess you could've emailed me your sty file and i would've
figured it out right away.

jon, there are no debuggers for latex (that i know of), so you often
have to resort to a binary search.

if anything like that happens in the future, comment out half your sty

if it ran successfully, uncomment half of what's commented out and

if it didn't run successfully, comment half of what's uncommented and

etc.  simple, yet effective.

every letter in your input has a catagory code (catcode) and a character
code.  the character code is like ebcidic or ascii.  the catcode is
assigned to the function of that particular letter.  you can reassign
the catcode of a particular character (like making the number 8 into the
"begin group" symbol instead of the opening french brace {, for example.

the makeatother / makeatletter is latex's way of being gentle.  the at
sign is given a catcode in latex's "mouth" that make it unavailable for
a control token.  so if you have it in a control word, you need to
redefine its catcode.

i'm at work right now, so i don't have my books in front of me and can't
give you specifics, but that's essentially what's going on.

pete

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