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Re: [vox-tech] [OT] IRQ's under win2k
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Re: [vox-tech] [OT] IRQ's under win2k



On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> bleah.  i can't change it.  did some web surfing, and found information
> on it, though.
>
> there are different hardware abstraction layers (HALs) that can be used.
> if you install win2k with a HAL of ACPI, you can't change IRQs.  if you
> have a HAL of "standard PC", supposedly you can.  i'm using an ACPI HAL.

This solution fixed a similar problem on an old win2k pc I had.  The
_solution_ kind of sucked because APM stopped working.  You got _it's now
safe to turn off your PC_ instead of a clean shutdown, I couldn't suspsend
(not that windows ever suspends and recovers well enough to be trusted),
etc.  If you are booting into windows just to play a game, and then
rebooting, these problems probably won't bother you, and for whatever
reason I can't describe, you'll get a better IRQ distribution.

>
> another page on microsoft's website says there are two ways to go from
> an ACPI HAL to a standard PC HAL.
>
> one way is by doing voodoo with the device manager, but they warn you
> that your OS probably won't load if you do that.
>
This didn't break anything in my case.  You just right click my computer,
got to properties, go to hardware, then to device manager, right click on
computer and go to properties, do reinstall driver, pick from list,
and then choose standard PC.

One time, when messing with my mom's older P-II ibm, I tried to go the
other way with win2k (from standard pc to acpi ready something pc)
it never again reboot until i reinstalled everything. wacky.

> the other way is to reinstall win2k as an update.  i sure hope that
> doesn't mean i have to reinstall all my software.
>
> sigh.  i'll probably try reinstalling.

I don't know where you would define this option during install; I don't
remember seeing that.


>
>
> btw, is there such a thing as non destructively changing NTFS to VFAT?
> i hate not being able to write to my windows drive from within linux.
>
> pete
>
>
> On Sat 13 Dec 03,  2:33 PM, Mark K. Kim  said:
> > I don't use win2k but...
> >
> > If you go to the device manager under the control panel, then click on the
> > resources tab, you might be able to assign resources manually.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >
> > > hi all,
> > >
> > > i have a linux/win2k dual boot.  everything is fine under linux, but
> > > i've got IRQ problems under windows.
> > >
> > > the sound sucks under win2k, but only when playing games.  it's fine
> > > when playing mp3's.  looking at the control panel, i noticed that the
> > > whole damned system is assigned to IRQ 11:
> > >
> > >     linux           win2k
> > >
> > > 1   timer           timer
> > > 2   keyboard
> > > 3   cascade
> > > 4   scsi            com1
> > > 5
> > > 6                   floppy
> > > 7
> > > 8   rtc             rtc
> > > 9                   ACPI
> > > 10
> > > 11  sound/usb/net   sound/usb/net/scsi/tv capture/AGP
> > > 12  PS2             PS/2
> > > 13                  mathco
> > > 14  ide0            ide0
> > > 15  ide1            id1
> > >
> > >
> > > the problem is obvious -- sound cards generally don't like sharing IRQ's
> > > to begin with, but having sound and video on the same IRQ is enough to
> > > kill sound on games.  if i can get either sound or video off of 11, i'm
> > > sure everything will be fine.
> > >
> > > but here's the rub.  linux works perfectly.  i'm reluctant to start
> > > pulling PCI cards out and redistributing them, because i don't want to
> > > trade a problem under windows for a problem under linux.  besides,
> > > everything is on 11, so i don't see how shuffling cards would work in
> > > this case.
> > >
> > > any ideas on what i should do?  i'm sufficiently unfamiliar with windows
> > > that i'm not sure what resources are available to help resolve the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > i can't find anything saying "assign IRQ X to PCI slot Y" in BIOS.
> > > maybe i just don't know where to look.
> > >
> > > however, there's options to "let BIOS assign IRQ X" and "reserve IRQ X".
> > > i'm not sure what "reserve" means, but i'm assuming that "reserve" means
> > > "don't assign IRQ X because an ISA card is going to want it".
> > >
> > > the machine in question uses a networked printer and has no serial
> > > devices, so IRQ's 3, 4, 5, and 7 are useless.  however, i can't find a
> > > way to tell windows to use them.
> > >
> > > help?
> > >
> > > pete
> > >
> > > ps- this kind of problem wouldn't happen under an AMD64 system, right?
> > >
> > > pps- this just emphasizes the fact that i really have no idea how IRQ's
> > > are assigned to begin with.  i know that certain PCI ports are tied to
> > > share certain IRQ's, hence "shuffling PCI cards" is a way of dealing
> > > with IRQ conflicts.  and i know that you can instruct BIOS not to assign
> > > IRQ's to let ISA cards take them.  but there must be more to that.  why
> > > would all my PCI cards be assigned to the same IRQ?  does anybody
> > > *really* know the nitty gritty details of how these things are assigned?
> > >
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