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Re: [vox-tech] Questions about building my own box



Had I known the sh-t storm I was going to stir up, I'd have kept my fingers
off the keyboard (But it has been funny nevertheless).

I'm still debating the build vs. buy.  But I have done some research and
think if I build I'll get a Athlon 1500 (fast and cheap).  Now I've only got
about 85 motherboards to look over.

I tried star office a year ago, didn't like a number of things, maybe it's
gotten better, at the time Netscape and monzilla sucked, didn't try Opera, I
never tried Koffice, I was luke warm on gnumeric, going to look at
Evolution, own vmware (but realized I do one thing on the server, I run
xterm (from there I vim and admin), the rest of the time I'm using
Office,IE,Outlook so why not use them natively and get eXceed), maybe I'll
have to learn DocBook/XML/Tex/LaTex (someday, right now I'm climbing the
Java hill, going thru the Sun tutorials, I know I'll just stop sleeping)

I live in Chicago so can't do the face to face (though the thought of 3hr
lines at O'hare, strip searches, gate delays, and the 4.5 hr flight is very
attractive).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Hasbrouck" <m_hasbrouck@yahoo.com>
To: <vox-tech@lists.lugod.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Questions about building my own box


> As a side note, keep an eye on star office. It
> currrently (v6) is trying for that great office suite
> position. I have yet to try it and see if if meets the
> mark set by MS Office and such, but if it does or even
> comes close, it'll worthy of your consideration.
>
> On another note, being the cheapskate I am, if you
> have an ols system hanging around, like a PII or
> Celeron 300+, Linux will make a dandy workstation.
>
> As was said in earlier messages, the AMD chip gives
> you more bang for your buck. Intel is good, but you do
> pay a premium for it.
>
> If you're looking for a system to not be too obsolete
> in three to five years, buy the fastest thing you can
> afford and fill it it RAM. That way, nearly anything
> should run. If you are on a budget, take a look at
> Rod's website. His prices are in line with anyone else
> that'll build a custom system and support it.
>
> It you want to build it yourself, well let's say
> that's one of my hobbies. That and doing it on the
> cheap. I don't think I'm the only one in LUGOD that
> builds their own either. I'm in the Sacramento area
> and can make time to chat face to face over hardware,
> etc.
>
> Marc
>
> --- Jay Strauss <jjstrauss@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Preface: I'm not starting a war, but....
> >
> > I have my linux (HP, Sun et al) machines where I run
> > Oracle, write my perl
> > scripts, monkey with DBI/DBD/Mod_perl stuff, but I
> > like the M$ Office suite,
> > IE, and outlook.
> >
> > I don't love M$, but I like their above products.  I
> > tried to make the
> > switch to a linux desktop but didn't like the apps.
> > I promise you guys, if
> > M$ ported Office, IE, and Outlook to *nix, you'd all
> > be using them.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ryan" <ryan@mother.com>
> > To: <vox-tech@lists.lugod.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Questions about building my
> > own box
> >
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hey now, chill out. It's entirely like that he did
> > not know AMD made CPUs.
> >
> > You don't need to flame his for using outlook
> > express (although it does
> > suck), perhaps he is unable to get online under
> > linux for some reason.
> >
> > Also, it's quite rude to accuse people of spam, if
> > it was a spam attempt
> > there likely would have been some mention of a
> > 'great deal' or 'sale'
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 16 2002 03:34 pm, Takashi
> > Ishihara wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 03:17:19PM -0600, Jay
> > Strauss wrote:
> > > > I'm thinking about building a new box,
> > unfortunately I don't know
> > > > anything about hardware
> > >
> > > How unreasonable ppl are these days.
> > > Kids say the same thing. The difference btwn kids
> > and this guy is
> > > kids don't know the fact that they are idiot, and
> > this guy at least know
> > > that he does not know anything.
> > >
> > > And this guy is using wintel + outlook.
> > > For this kind of person, the only convinsing
> > factors are
> > > 1. bigger is better.
> > > 2. faster is better.
> > > Go to fry's or compusa or wherever and ask the
> > sales person.
> > > They tell you the same.
> > >
> > > > I'm using www.spartantech.com (because they're
> > out where I live), my
> > > > first
> > >
> > > Does this line implies that you expect ppl on the
> > mailing list to visit
> > > aforementioned uri, browse their products, and
> > configure the system for
> > > you? Or was he hired by that company, and send
> > this kind of ads to the
> > > mailing lists?
> > >
> > > > choice it the chip:
> > >
> > > Sure you should stick w/ wintel + rambus.
> > >
> > > > I have to choose:
> > > > socket 423 vs 478
> > >
> > > Bigger is better. Naturally the answer would be
> > 478.
> > >
> > > > bus speed 256 vs 512
> > >
> > > Wider is better. Naturally the answer would be
> > 512.
> > >
> > > > chip speed - I know what this is.
> > >
> > > Make sure to get the fastest one.
> > >
> > > > Is the 423 an older style than the 478? the 478
> > is less expensive, is
> > > > that good?
> > > > bus speed, how will that impact the system, is
> > it worth the price? It
> > > > seems I have have to buy the fastest chip in
> > order to get the bigger bus
> > > > (maybe it just doesn't make sense with a slower
> > chip?)
> > >
> > > Newer ones are a bit more expensive in general,
> > but you should get new
> > > stuffs. Get the latest ones. They're faster and
> > better.
> > >
> > > > Jay
> > >
> > > Hi Jay,
> > > so you're going to install xp on it, aren't you?
> > >
> > > >
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