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Re: [vox-tech] ssh requires setuid?

  • Subject: Re: [vox-tech] ssh requires setuid?
  • From: "Mark K. Kim" <MAPSmkkim@ucdavis.edu>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:10:38 -0800
  • References: 20010221115006.A3814@dirac.org

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> they removed ssh1 because of security reasons but left telnet on?

Yeah.  One of the greatest threats to security is "false sense of
security".  Ssh1 gives this false sense of security while telnet doesn't
pretend to give any security at all.  There are people that argue
for/against either side ("it's better to have little security even if it
gives false sense of security" vs. "it's better to have no security at all
so you can take appropriate precautions"), but in either case I think it's
okay to use ssh1 as long as you know the risks.

Also, ssh1 has buffer oveflow bug on both client and server ends.  This
makes these *suid* programs susceptable to attacks.

> if you have any influence over the administrators, twist their arm to use
> openssh instead of ssh.    openssh supports both ssh1 and ssh2.  it's
> available as an rpm, dpkg and source.  it couldn't be easier to install,
> and would boost the security of their system.  something every admin
> strives for.  :)

I don't have that much influence, I'm afraid.  They have other things to
do.  FYI, OpenSSH (up to version 2.3) is also susceptable to the buffer
overflow bug :)


Mark K. Kim
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