Re: [vox-tech] help - dsl

[Peter Jay Salzman <p@beliaMAPSl.ucdavis.edu>]

ok, we just got DSL.  i do hear a background soft hum.  i can make a ppp
connection over it, with really crummy bandwidth.  with a filter, the hum
disappears.

can't get it to work though.  really strange symptom - after

        ifconfig eth0 216.102.106.76 up

every ping/ssh/whatever to 216.102.106.* goes straight back to my machine.
very wierd!

the dsl modem has the power, link and ready lights on.  no activity light
though.  in an act of desperation, i tried setting it up on the windows
machine; no success.  i tried using the old black dsl modems, no success.

i'm beginning to think that the problem is on pacbell's end.  maybe my ip
address or my gateway ip has changed?   no way to tell until tomorrow when i
can call pacbell.

gee whiz.  there's FINALLY dsl coming into my home, and i'm stuck writing
this email over a 56k modem.   it just ain't fair...

pete


> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Mark Kim wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > 
> > > ok, now for the dumb question.   suppose you had a phone hooked up to a DSL
> > > line, with no splitters or filters.  what would you hear?
> 
> DSL is a frequency-multiplexing scheme, with voice occupying up to 4kHz,
> and data occupying various bands above 20kHz (to 1MHz?).  Some small
> signal in the audible range might be noticable, depending on how good your
> hearing is (supposedly good human ears can hear up to 22kHz).
> 
> > I think you aren't supposed to tell whether a telephone line has a DSL
> > activated or not, so I guess you don't hear anything but a dialtone.  I
> > think the idea is that you don't have to synchronize the installation of
> > the filters with the DSL activation at the central office.
> 
> If you plug into the data line, the low-frequency dialtone shouldn't be
> audible because is the design of the filter to block it out.
> 
> > Pacbell messed up our hookup, 
> 
> I thought you were going to do that yourself?
> 
> > so we have separated voice and data lines (three wires -- one shared
> > between the two).
> 
> This should be easy to fix.  I cannot seem to find a schematic of a
> splitter, but I would imagine it is something like the following (with
> maybe some resistors as well):
> 
>        from CO
>        |     |
>        |     +---------+
>        |               |
>        +-------------- | ---------------+
>        |               |                |
>        |               |                |
>  +-----+-----+         |           -----+-----
>  | inductor  |         |            capacitor
>  +-----+-----+         |           -----+-----
>        |               |                |
>        |      |C|      |  +----------+  |
>        +------|a|------+--+ inductor +--+
>        |      |p|      |  +----------+  |
>        |               |                |
>  +-----+-----+         |           -----+-----
>  | inductor  |         |            capacitor
>  +-----+-----+         |           -----+-----
>        |               |                |
>        +-----+   +-----+-------+  +-----+
>              |   |             |  |
>              voice             data
>                               (*)
> 
> so it sounds like the final "common" (*) to the data connection didn't get
> made, which should be straightforward to fix at the splitter.
> 
> > When I hook up a telephone
> > to the data line, I don't hear anything (unless I have my DSL modem hooked
> > up, in which case I hear negotation tones).
> 
> You do hear something?  High pitched? Interesting...